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Emily Gale talks Charlotte Sometimes, KidLit Classics S2 Episode 15

About this episode’s KidLit Classic:

Charlotte Sometimes, by Penelope Farmer, was published 1969, the third and best-known of the Aviary Hall trilogy. A time-slip novel that explores identity, loss, and grief, it became somewhat famous when Robert Smith from The Cure adapted many of its lines into a song of the same name.

Children's author and kidlit advocate Emily Gale discusses her deeply personal connection with Charlotte Sometimes, how we latch onto fictional characters as children, the rich prose and themes, how structure and content in children's books has changed, the magic of time-slip novels, and the importance of supporting the kidlit industry.

About Emily Gale:

Emily has worked in the book industry for over twenty years in various roles, including as an editor, book buyer, consultant to a literary agent, and as part of a high school library team. An award-winning YA and MG author, her latest work includes Elsewhere Girls, co-written with Nova Weetman, and The Goodbye Year.

Connect with Emily: Instagram: @emilygalebooksetc / Website:

Connect with host Sam-Ellen Bound: Instagram @samellenb / Website

Buy Charlotte Sometimes here

Mentioned in Podcast:

Frog & Toad by Arnold Lobel

Playing Beatie Bow by Ruth Park

Tumbleglass by Kate Constable

Elsewhere Girls by Emily Gale & Nova Weetman

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Opening and Outro music:

‘Funny Whimsical Music’ by MoodMode, accessed via Storyblocks. Purchased and used under Storyblocks’ Royalty-Free Individual License Agreement.

Sound files:

'owl hoots and distant dog bark' by pixabay

'In beautiful dark mood' by SamuelFrancisJohnson

'Night Ambience' by Pixabay


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